Comments on: http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/ny-times-why-doctors-get-it-wrong-but.html Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/ny-times-why-doctors-get-it-wrong-but.html#comment-80532 Anonymous Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:18:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20098.html#comment-80532 Yes doctors themselves never sue other doctors or anybody else only patients sue.<br/><br/>- Prakash Arige<br/><a HREF="http://www.healthmedicaltourism.org" REL="nofollow"> Health Value Travel </a> Yes doctors themselves never sue other doctors or anybody else only patients sue.

- Prakash Arige
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]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/ny-times-why-doctors-get-it-wrong-but.html#comment-59785 Anonymous Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:44:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20098.html#comment-59785 ok...you got me on that one...i've met my match... ok…you got me on that one…i’ve met my match…

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/ny-times-why-doctors-get-it-wrong-but.html#comment-59783 Anonymous Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:17:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20098.html#comment-59783 After reading all this and hearing how many Doctor's complain about people showing up in their ERs when they really don't need to be there leads me to one statement.<br/><br/>If the only people who ever showed up were the ones who were truly having an MI or something equally as devastating. How many ERs would there be for you to be practicing in? Surely if only the deathly ill came to the ER you probably wouldn't have your job.."Now you understand!!!" After reading all this and hearing how many Doctor’s complain about people showing up in their ERs when they really don’t need to be there leads me to one statement.

If the only people who ever showed up were the ones who were truly having an MI or something equally as devastating. How many ERs would there be for you to be practicing in? Surely if only the deathly ill came to the ER you probably wouldn’t have your job..”Now you understand!!!”

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/ny-times-why-doctors-get-it-wrong-but.html#comment-59776 Anonymous Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:43:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20098.html#comment-59776 <i>you need a patient or family members who agree to sue.</i><br/>and an expert witness...<br/><br/>and of course, doctors themselves never sue other doctors or anybody else - as we've seen on this board<br/><br/>and of course, everyone can and shall be judged by the group they belong to - be it patients or doctors or ... (I don't want to go further here) you need a patient or family members who agree to sue.
and an expert witness…

and of course, doctors themselves never sue other doctors or anybody else – as we’ve seen on this board

and of course, everyone can and shall be judged by the group they belong to – be it patients or doctors or … (I don’t want to go further here)

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/ny-times-why-doctors-get-it-wrong-but.html#comment-59774 Anonymous Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:08:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20098.html#comment-59774 Anon 5:09, What if I have been your PT.for a long time and I trust in you completely and one day I say to you..<br/><br/>"Doc. I know what's going on with all this defensive medicine in this country. I don't want you to practice that with me". I know that first response would be similar to "I have to protect myself so you have to receive defensive medicine." But, can't you and I have something like a legal agreement on it? Couldn't YOUR Lawyer draw up papers that your patients could sign? Papers that would release you from legal ramifications? Is this an option that could work? Is this a way that many of us who have never sued anyone in our lives could side with our Physicians against the legal community?<br/><br/>If not, then give us some options. Tell us what we, as patients, can do to help end this disaster. Anon 5:09, What if I have been your PT.for a long time and I trust in you completely and one day I say to you..

“Doc. I know what’s going on with all this defensive medicine in this country. I don’t want you to practice that with me”. I know that first response would be similar to “I have to protect myself so you have to receive defensive medicine.” But, can’t you and I have something like a legal agreement on it? Couldn’t YOUR Lawyer draw up papers that your patients could sign? Papers that would release you from legal ramifications? Is this an option that could work? Is this a way that many of us who have never sued anyone in our lives could side with our Physicians against the legal community?

If not, then give us some options. Tell us what we, as patients, can do to help end this disaster.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/ny-times-why-doctors-get-it-wrong-but.html#comment-59772 Anonymous Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:16:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20098.html#comment-59772 anon 5:09, don't apologize to these people...you need more than just a lawyer to sue...you need a patient or family members who agree to sue. That is why I said that they get what they reap...other than death and taxes, one thing I can say with almost absolute certitude is that each and everyone of these people is going to deal with a defensive healthcare system and unecessary testing. It may happen tomorrow, a year from now, or on their death bed when the critical care people are sticking feeding tubes/central lines/wires in every one of their orifices so they can do "everything possible"... anon 5:09, don’t apologize to these people…you need more than just a lawyer to sue…you need a patient or family members who agree to sue. That is why I said that they get what they reap…other than death and taxes, one thing I can say with almost absolute certitude is that each and everyone of these people is going to deal with a defensive healthcare system and unecessary testing. It may happen tomorrow, a year from now, or on their death bed when the critical care people are sticking feeding tubes/central lines/wires in every one of their orifices so they can do “everything possible”…

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/ny-times-why-doctors-get-it-wrong-but.html#comment-59771 Anonymous Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:09:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20098.html#comment-59771 I think the last comment pools all physicians together unfairly. The reason I am so upset as a physician that I have to order un-needed tests to cover my Butt is that you patients don't deserve it. I really did get into this to help people and I always feel I am appeasing lawyers and hurting patients when I order all these stupid tests. I would love to just see patients and treat them with empathy but instead we have this lawyer-created anatgonism, where every day I have to tell patients "if you don't do this test you could die and I need you to sign out AMA" when I know (and I tell the patient) there's a 1% possibility the test will be positive. I think the last comment pools all physicians together unfairly. The reason I am so upset as a physician that I have to order un-needed tests to cover my Butt is that you patients don’t deserve it. I really did get into this to help people and I always feel I am appeasing lawyers and hurting patients when I order all these stupid tests. I would love to just see patients and treat them with empathy but instead we have this lawyer-created anatgonism, where every day I have to tell patients “if you don’t do this test you could die and I need you to sign out AMA” when I know (and I tell the patient) there’s a 1% possibility the test will be positive.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/ny-times-why-doctors-get-it-wrong-but.html#comment-59767 Anonymous Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:50:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20098.html#comment-59767 I absolutely agree with the above post. I have carefully read all these comments and the conclusion is that it is the Physicians who have done all the name calling. <br/><br/>You have lowered your selves and your profession in many of our eyes. Noone has said anything in these posts that would make you believe we deserve being screwed over. <br/><br/>You have taken what most of us believe to be a profession that deserves respect and made yourselves look anything but respectable. Actually you appear to be quite childish with your name calling and such. <br/><br/>I use to smack my children in the mouth for using dirty language. Some of you could use some parental disipline! I absolutely agree with the above post. I have carefully read all these comments and the conclusion is that it is the Physicians who have done all the name calling.

You have lowered your selves and your profession in many of our eyes. Noone has said anything in these posts that would make you believe we deserve being screwed over.

You have taken what most of us believe to be a profession that deserves respect and made yourselves look anything but respectable. Actually you appear to be quite childish with your name calling and such.

I use to smack my children in the mouth for using dirty language. Some of you could use some parental disipline!

]]> By: diorahttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/ny-times-why-doctors-get-it-wrong-but.html#comment-59766 diora Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:35:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20098.html#comment-59766 <i>but it seems like you all deserve it!</i><br/>You know, I do understand everything you said in your post and I don't particularly like the American national sport of suing each other either, but this point was really uncalled for. In my humble and completely ignorant opinion. <br/><br/>Just out of curiosity - would you mind pointing out what I've ever said that make you seem I deserve it? I thought I've been reasonable. But I guess just the fact I am a patient means I deserve anything I get. Including name-calling. As if your collegues never sue each other and your other collegues don't lie on the stand for money when called as "expert witnesses". <br/><br/>To be honest I don't see how you came up to this conclusion from other patients' posts either. It seems it mostly the doctors who resort to name-calling, deliberately misinterpreting posts or using words out-of-context. A sure sign of the strength of one's argument. but it seems like you all deserve it!
You know, I do understand everything you said in your post and I don’t particularly like the American national sport of suing each other either, but this point was really uncalled for. In my humble and completely ignorant opinion.

Just out of curiosity – would you mind pointing out what I’ve ever said that make you seem I deserve it? I thought I’ve been reasonable. But I guess just the fact I am a patient means I deserve anything I get. Including name-calling. As if your collegues never sue each other and your other collegues don’t lie on the stand for money when called as “expert witnesses”.

To be honest I don’t see how you came up to this conclusion from other patients’ posts either. It seems it mostly the doctors who resort to name-calling, deliberately misinterpreting posts or using words out-of-context. A sure sign of the strength of one’s argument.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/ny-times-why-doctors-get-it-wrong-but.html#comment-59762 Anonymous Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:28:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20098.html#comment-59762 I am tired of arguing this one out with you people...but the bottom line is this...physicians are in a bad situation but I am trying to point out whenever I can how they can protect themselves...this is all we can do for now...<br/><br/>The patients that read about this get upset because they know they are getting screwed by this defensive medicine...but it seems like you all deserve it! I am tired of arguing this one out with you people…but the bottom line is this…physicians are in a bad situation but I am trying to point out whenever I can how they can protect themselves…this is all we can do for now…

The patients that read about this get upset because they know they are getting screwed by this defensive medicine…but it seems like you all deserve it!

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