Comments on: http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/bill-is-introduced-that-would-bar.html Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:39:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/bill-is-introduced-that-would-bar.html#comment-59817 Anonymous Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:56:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20107.html#comment-59817 I agree with the above poster. It is not any Drs. business who owns guns (unless you think you have p***** someone off so much they might come after you). <br/><br/>It's really not even your business if you are treating a gunshot victim. I assume the police and detectives and all other types of professionals get invloved with that, isn't that their job?<br/><br/>I thought your jobs were to treat victims not investigate crimes!!! I agree with the above poster. It is not any Drs. business who owns guns (unless you think you have p***** someone off so much they might come after you).

It’s really not even your business if you are treating a gunshot victim. I assume the police and detectives and all other types of professionals get invloved with that, isn’t that their job?

I thought your jobs were to treat victims not investigate crimes!!!

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/bill-is-introduced-that-would-bar.html#comment-59787 Anonymous Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:56:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20107.html#comment-59787 It's no G*dd*mn business of anyone, including doctors, whether anyone keeps a gun or not. I'm a doctor myself and I'd never think of asking a patient this but then again I'm not an anti-gun nut intent on destroying activity protected by the constitution. It’s no G*dd*mn business of anyone, including doctors, whether anyone keeps a gun or not. I’m a doctor myself and I’d never think of asking a patient this but then again I’m not an anti-gun nut intent on destroying activity protected by the constitution.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/bill-is-introduced-that-would-bar.html#comment-59758 Anonymous Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:26:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20107.html#comment-59758 "didn't Stephen Levitt of Freakonomics fame show that a house with pool is 100x more dangerous than a house with gun. Do you report all patient that have pools to protective services? If you're answer is no, then you are an ideological, ignorant hack."<br/><br/>We ask about safe homes in general and protective services does an evaluation of the entire home for safety issues. There's no politics involved. I could care less if anyone owns a gun, my dad had a gun, he just didn't leave it out. “didn’t Stephen Levitt of Freakonomics fame show that a house with pool is 100x more dangerous than a house with gun. Do you report all patient that have pools to protective services? If you’re answer is no, then you are an ideological, ignorant hack.”

We ask about safe homes in general and protective services does an evaluation of the entire home for safety issues. There’s no politics involved. I could care less if anyone owns a gun, my dad had a gun, he just didn’t leave it out.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/bill-is-introduced-that-would-bar.html#comment-59756 Anonymous Mon, 27 Feb 2006 06:50:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20107.html#comment-59756 wow, the nuts came out in force here, eh? Yes, I read Freakonomics. Big whoop. His analysis is not the final word on gun safety. You (I am assuming one person wrote all 3 previous posts) are conflating asking about gun ownership with accusing a parent of negligence. The NRA recognizes the dangers of guns in the home and recommends talking about gun safety w/ kids. wow, the nuts came out in force here, eh? Yes, I read Freakonomics. Big whoop. His analysis is not the final word on gun safety. You (I am assuming one person wrote all 3 previous posts) are conflating asking about gun ownership with accusing a parent of negligence. The NRA recognizes the dangers of guns in the home and recommends talking about gun safety w/ kids.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/bill-is-introduced-that-would-bar.html#comment-59754 Anonymous Mon, 27 Feb 2006 04:06:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20107.html#comment-59754 I you are just asking depressed patients if they have access to a gun, you are making a mistake. The correct question to ask is, "Do you have any specific plans to kill yourself?" Firearms are one of the most common successful methods of suicide in the US, but drug overdose is by far, far the most common method of an attempt.<br/><br/>The problem with asking about guns, from a medical standpoint as a risk to depressed patients and to children, is that it skews the relative risk. A child is far more likely to die from choking or from drowning in a swimming pool. Even a stairway represents a greater risk of serious injury than a handgun. I you are just asking depressed patients if they have access to a gun, you are making a mistake. The correct question to ask is, “Do you have any specific plans to kill yourself?” Firearms are one of the most common successful methods of suicide in the US, but drug overdose is by far, far the most common method of an attempt.

The problem with asking about guns, from a medical standpoint as a risk to depressed patients and to children, is that it skews the relative risk. A child is far more likely to die from choking or from drowning in a swimming pool. Even a stairway represents a greater risk of serious injury than a handgun.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/bill-is-introduced-that-would-bar.html#comment-59753 Anonymous Mon, 27 Feb 2006 03:54:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20107.html#comment-59753 You docs are ideological hacks. Pompous and unhinged from reality--ah, but medicine isn't too often evidence-based, so I guess u guys don't need to worry about facts.<br/><br/>To the doctor who said this:<br/><br/>"I would consider an unlocked gun in a household a child at risk. If we don't report such things to child protective services we can lose our medical license." <br/><br/>Hmmm . . . didn't Stephen Levitt of Freakonomics fame show that a house with pool is 100x more dangerous than a house with gun. Do you report all patient that have pools to protective services? If you're answer is no, then you are an ideological, ignorant hack.<br/><br/>http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/news/79388.php You docs are ideological hacks. Pompous and unhinged from reality–ah, but medicine isn’t too often evidence-based, so I guess u guys don’t need to worry about facts.

To the doctor who said this:

“I would consider an unlocked gun in a household a child at risk. If we don’t report such things to child protective services we can lose our medical license.”

Hmmm . . . didn’t Stephen Levitt of Freakonomics fame show that a house with pool is 100x more dangerous than a house with gun. Do you report all patient that have pools to protective services? If you’re answer is no, then you are an ideological, ignorant hack.

http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/news/79388.php

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/bill-is-introduced-that-would-bar.html#comment-59715 Anonymous Sun, 26 Feb 2006 04:44:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20107.html#comment-59715 I ask almost all my adult male depressed patients if they have easy access to a gun. I ask almost all my adult male depressed patients if they have easy access to a gun.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/bill-is-introduced-that-would-bar.html#comment-59711 Anonymous Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:57:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20107.html#comment-59711 "A pediatrician who asks a child's parent about firearms in their home could lose his or her license or be disciplined"<br/><br/>In Massachusetts, we are required by law to report any case in which we think a child is endamgered. I would consider an unlocked gun in a household a child at risk. If we don't report such things to child protective services we can lose our medical license. I would much rather lose my job for reporting gun ownership then pronounce a 2 year old dead of a gunshot wound, which I have done. “A pediatrician who asks a child’s parent about firearms in their home could lose his or her license or be disciplined”

In Massachusetts, we are required by law to report any case in which we think a child is endamgered. I would consider an unlocked gun in a household a child at risk. If we don’t report such things to child protective services we can lose our medical license. I would much rather lose my job for reporting gun ownership then pronounce a 2 year old dead of a gunshot wound, which I have done.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/bill-is-introduced-that-would-bar.html#comment-59704 Anonymous Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:35:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20107.html#comment-59704 Fortunately, the senate committee kills the bill. There are actually more importants things that can be banned: talking on cell phone while driving,smoking in restaurants, prescribing controlled substances to drug seekers in ER's,junk food school vending machines, etc. Fortunately, the senate committee kills the bill. There are actually more importants things that can be banned: talking on cell phone while driving,smoking in restaurants, prescribing controlled substances to drug seekers in ER’s,junk food school vending machines, etc.

]]> By: mcheberthttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2006/02/bill-is-introduced-that-would-bar.html#comment-59703 mchebert Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:43:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2006/02/20107.html#comment-59703 What shames me the most about this is that the story comes from the Commonwealth of Virginia, which was the first American colony too enact a bill of rights.<br/><br/>I lived in Virginia for 11 years and can't believe they would be so stupid.<br/><br/>I discuss this topic further on my own website. What shames me the most about this is that the story comes from the Commonwealth of Virginia, which was the first American colony too enact a bill of rights.

I lived in Virginia for 11 years and can’t believe they would be so stupid.

I discuss this topic further on my own website.

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