Comments on: http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/12/effects-of-36-million-malpractice.html Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/12/effects-of-36-million-malpractice.html#comment-57456 Anonymous Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:33:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/12/19509.html#comment-57456 "are you on salary? I can see where Ismd does free work"<br/><br/>No I am not end of story. “are you on salary? I can see where Ismd does free work”

No I am not end of story.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/12/effects-of-36-million-malpractice.html#comment-57452 Anonymous Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:11:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/12/19509.html#comment-57452 "You just don't get it. We work "for free" every day. The difference between you and me is I don't pontificate about how I have done "5 hours" of "pro bono" work this week. This is just another day at work in my field. "<br/><br/>You'll have to point me to where I've pontificated on the subject. What about you anonymous - are you on salary? I can see where Ismd does free work, but are you on salary? If you are, then pipe down.<br/><br/>CJD “You just don’t get it. We work “for free” every day. The difference between you and me is I don’t pontificate about how I have done “5 hours” of “pro bono” work this week. This is just another day at work in my field. “

You’ll have to point me to where I’ve pontificated on the subject. What about you anonymous – are you on salary? I can see where Ismd does free work, but are you on salary? If you are, then pipe down.

CJD

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/12/effects-of-36-million-malpractice.html#comment-57447 Anonymous Tue, 06 Dec 2005 18:44:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/12/19509.html#comment-57447 "priority of personal income over social good by the most well-off players in the system is why I have lost so much respect for physicians."<br/><br/>Well coming from someone like yourself Elliot I will consider that statement a compliment. Tell me Elliot why have I never seen you or your ilk at 03:00 when I am desperately trying to save someone's life. Why have I never seen you or your ilk when I am crossing off my bills on families who are overburdened and don't qualify for medicare because it was "the right thing to do". Why haven't I seen you offering constructive arguments as opposed to personally profiting off a broken system. Your statement shows you for the person you really are. <br/><br/>CJD:<br/><br/>"I don't work for free on those kinds of cases anymore than you work for free"<br/> <br/>You just don't get it. We work "for free" every day. The difference between you and me is I don't pontificate about how I have done "5 hours" of "pro bono" work this week. This is just another day at work in my field. “priority of personal income over social good by the most well-off players in the system is why I have lost so much respect for physicians.”

Well coming from someone like yourself Elliot I will consider that statement a compliment. Tell me Elliot why have I never seen you or your ilk at 03:00 when I am desperately trying to save someone’s life. Why have I never seen you or your ilk when I am crossing off my bills on families who are overburdened and don’t qualify for medicare because it was “the right thing to do”. Why haven’t I seen you offering constructive arguments as opposed to personally profiting off a broken system. Your statement shows you for the person you really are.

CJD:

“I don’t work for free on those kinds of cases anymore than you work for free”

You just don’t get it. We work “for free” every day. The difference between you and me is I don’t pontificate about how I have done “5 hours” of “pro bono” work this week. This is just another day at work in my field.

]]> By: ismdhttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/12/effects-of-36-million-malpractice.html#comment-57445 ismd Tue, 06 Dec 2005 18:14:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/12/19509.html#comment-57445 Anon 10:58 AM,<br/><br/>I'm a private practitioner, and not salaried by the hospital. I'm on the voluntary medical staff. My salary is dependent upon the monies I'm able to bring in. So any care I provide that I get no reimbursement for is free care. Anon 10:58 AM,

I’m a private practitioner, and not salaried by the hospital. I’m on the voluntary medical staff. My salary is dependent upon the monies I’m able to bring in. So any care I provide that I get no reimbursement for is free care.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/12/effects-of-36-million-malpractice.html#comment-57444 Anonymous Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:58:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/12/19509.html#comment-57444 If you're getting a salary, then you are not working for free. If you’re getting a salary, then you are not working for free.

]]> By: ismdhttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/12/effects-of-36-million-malpractice.html#comment-57439 ismd Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:56:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/12/19509.html#comment-57439 "I don't work for free on those kinds of cases anymore than you work for free."<br/><br/>Wrong! I do, at times, work for free. I'm obligated, under state law, to see patients in the hospital who may not be able to pay, ie charity care, uninsured, etc ( and I'm not including Medicaid). Do I get paid? - yeah, right. Are the uninsured a bigger risk in terms of potential malpractice? - you bet they are. But if I don't take care of them in the hospital, my license is on the line. The bottom line is that those of us who practice in the hospital have to care for the uninsured. So, yes, CJD, we do work for free at times. “I don’t work for free on those kinds of cases anymore than you work for free.”

Wrong! I do, at times, work for free. I’m obligated, under state law, to see patients in the hospital who may not be able to pay, ie charity care, uninsured, etc ( and I’m not including Medicaid). Do I get paid? – yeah, right. Are the uninsured a bigger risk in terms of potential malpractice? – you bet they are. But if I don’t take care of them in the hospital, my license is on the line. The bottom line is that those of us who practice in the hospital have to care for the uninsured. So, yes, CJD, we do work for free at times.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/12/effects-of-36-million-malpractice.html#comment-57437 Anonymous Tue, 06 Dec 2005 04:02:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/12/19509.html#comment-57437 ismd, no need to attack me when you're mad at Elliot. As I told you before, if I made a conclusory statement that was unsupported, I'll be glad to admit it or back it up. Just ask. <br/><br/>And I don't claim my motives are any more or less altruistic than that of a physician's. Although I rarely handle med mal, and never any of much size, I don't work for free on those kinds of cases anymore than you work for free. That doesn't mean we both don't care about our clients/patients and their interests, though.<br/><br/>CJD ismd, no need to attack me when you’re mad at Elliot. As I told you before, if I made a conclusory statement that was unsupported, I’ll be glad to admit it or back it up. Just ask.

And I don’t claim my motives are any more or less altruistic than that of a physician’s. Although I rarely handle med mal, and never any of much size, I don’t work for free on those kinds of cases anymore than you work for free. That doesn’t mean we both don’t care about our clients/patients and their interests, though.

CJD

]]> By: ismdhttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/12/effects-of-36-million-malpractice.html#comment-57435 ismd Tue, 06 Dec 2005 03:18:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/12/19509.html#comment-57435 "This priority of personal income over social good by the most well-off players in the system is why I have lost so much respect for physicians."<br/><br/>Prove this moronic statement - show me the data to support the absolute stupidity of your comment. You and CJD always ask us for proof and come after us like bats out of hell for making generalizations, but it's OK for you to do the same? So can I comment on the greed of trial lawyers who prioritize their income over any award monies their clients win? God forbid!<br/><br/>"tort reform (income enhancement)"<br/><br/>That statement is even more asinine than the first one. “This priority of personal income over social good by the most well-off players in the system is why I have lost so much respect for physicians.”

Prove this moronic statement – show me the data to support the absolute stupidity of your comment. You and CJD always ask us for proof and come after us like bats out of hell for making generalizations, but it’s OK for you to do the same? So can I comment on the greed of trial lawyers who prioritize their income over any award monies their clients win? God forbid!

“tort reform (income enhancement)”

That statement is even more asinine than the first one.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/12/effects-of-36-million-malpractice.html#comment-57431 Anonymous Tue, 06 Dec 2005 01:58:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/12/19509.html#comment-57431 OB-GYNs need to do what the trauma surgeons in Vegas did: Tell the public to all go fuck themselves and stop working. It's the only way they'll get the publicity they need to get this system fixed. You've got to be a complete idiot to continue working in a system where every day you go to work you may end up in a court for months having your competence questioned because of a bad outcome. Every time I meet an OB-gyn resident I think to myslef, what 's wrong with this person? How could they have been so stupid to go into this profession? Like having a target on your back? OB-GYNs need to do what the trauma surgeons in Vegas did: Tell the public to all go fuck themselves and stop working. It’s the only way they’ll get the publicity they need to get this system fixed. You’ve got to be a complete idiot to continue working in a system where every day you go to work you may end up in a court for months having your competence questioned because of a bad outcome. Every time I meet an OB-gyn resident I think to myslef, what ‘s wrong with this person? How could they have been so stupid to go into this profession? Like having a target on your back?

]]> By: Elliotthttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/12/effects-of-36-million-malpractice.html#comment-57417 Elliott Mon, 05 Dec 2005 15:04:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/12/19509.html#comment-57417 Real social insurance for healthcare is just a full frontal assault from the AMA away, but that organization prefers to fight a basically dishonest battle for tort reform. This priority of personal income over social good by the most well-off players in the system is why I have lost so much respect for physicians. I suppose that tort reform (income enhancement) is something they can get all doctors to back while actually helping people is a project that would be too divisive for their membership. Real social insurance for healthcare is just a full frontal assault from the AMA away, but that organization prefers to fight a basically dishonest battle for tort reform. This priority of personal income over social good by the most well-off players in the system is why I have lost so much respect for physicians. I suppose that tort reform (income enhancement) is something they can get all doctors to back while actually helping people is a project that would be too divisive for their membership.

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