Comments on: http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/11/some-are-stopping-fosamax-and-other.html Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:28:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/11/some-are-stopping-fosamax-and-other.html#comment-85543 Anonymous Sun, 11 May 2008 19:54:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/11/19336.html#comment-85543 Any evidence on the effectiveness of Fortical used off-label for a pre-menopausal woman?<br/><br/>I'm 30 & have mild osteopenia in my femur. My MD prescribed it, but I'm not convinced. I take 1500 mg calcium citrate + D daily. Any evidence on the effectiveness of Fortical used off-label for a pre-menopausal woman?

I’m 30 & have mild osteopenia in my femur. My MD prescribed it, but I’m not convinced. I take 1500 mg calcium citrate + D daily.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/11/some-are-stopping-fosamax-and-other.html#comment-81849 Anonymous Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:24:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/11/19336.html#comment-81849 From another writer: "How many of you actually KNOW someone who has the hump on their back or who has died of a bone injury?" My view: The reason you might not see alot of these people is because they are usually elderly or dead and if their bone disease has reached this level of deformity, they are usually residents of a nursing home, not people out in the communtiy. First of all, I have taken Fosamax for about 4 years, but have stopped. I am torn as my mother is in a nursing home with the BENT posture, from multiple spinal franctures. Her height went in a period of about 4 years from 5'4" tall to about 4'5" tall, with many complications to her functioning due to the trunk-deformity, ie: lung, stomach, intestinal crushing, etc. Her bone loss though was from extensive radiation in the 60's due to uterine cancer at age 45, and no subsequent hormones. My Dad, at 88 broke a hip in July 1999, and was dead from the complications in 7 months, Feb. 2000. SO...there ARE bent people, and dead people from osteoporsis and its complications.<br/>THAT SAID, I do feel that the pharmaceutical companies are cashing in on the baby-boomers who are in the menopausal age range. Fosamax was never meant as a preventative, but only for a diagnosis of actual osteoporosis and if a fracture had occured. But it is BIG money to make us think we need it as a preventative. For me, after 4 years on the drug, my scans had minimal improvement, but I had a lot of bone pain, and the onset of arthritis (?), who knows maybe caused by the Fosamax? Anyway, now with the potential jaw necrosis risk after taking it for years, I decided to stop it. Recent bone scan showed NO bone loss and I have been off it for 2 years. Am trying increased Calcium, and related supplements for absorbtion, and weight-bearing excercise, and will repeat the scan in 6 months. I am 54. From another writer: “How many of you actually KNOW someone who has the hump on their back or who has died of a bone injury?” My view: The reason you might not see alot of these people is because they are usually elderly or dead and if their bone disease has reached this level of deformity, they are usually residents of a nursing home, not people out in the communtiy. First of all, I have taken Fosamax for about 4 years, but have stopped. I am torn as my mother is in a nursing home with the BENT posture, from multiple spinal franctures. Her height went in a period of about 4 years from 5’4″ tall to about 4’5″ tall, with many complications to her functioning due to the trunk-deformity, ie: lung, stomach, intestinal crushing, etc. Her bone loss though was from extensive radiation in the 60′s due to uterine cancer at age 45, and no subsequent hormones. My Dad, at 88 broke a hip in July 1999, and was dead from the complications in 7 months, Feb. 2000. SO…there ARE bent people, and dead people from osteoporsis and its complications.
THAT SAID, I do feel that the pharmaceutical companies are cashing in on the baby-boomers who are in the menopausal age range. Fosamax was never meant as a preventative, but only for a diagnosis of actual osteoporosis and if a fracture had occured. But it is BIG money to make us think we need it as a preventative. For me, after 4 years on the drug, my scans had minimal improvement, but I had a lot of bone pain, and the onset of arthritis (?), who knows maybe caused by the Fosamax? Anyway, now with the potential jaw necrosis risk after taking it for years, I decided to stop it. Recent bone scan showed NO bone loss and I have been off it for 2 years. Am trying increased Calcium, and related supplements for absorbtion, and weight-bearing excercise, and will repeat the scan in 6 months. I am 54.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/11/some-are-stopping-fosamax-and-other.html#comment-70192 Anonymous Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:38:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/11/19336.html#comment-70192 What does turn over in the jaw mean? Half life time? What does turn over in the jaw mean? Half life time?

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/11/some-are-stopping-fosamax-and-other.html#comment-70161 Anonymous Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:53:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/11/19336.html#comment-70161 There is no guarantee taking any osteoporosis drug will prevent a fracture or break. So why load us up on more poison. I was taking it for 3 yrs and called my doctor and told her i am getting off of it. Who knows what more problems down the line it will cause. I would like to know how long it takes to get out of the body system. I have since put myself on Calcium Carbonate/D supplement.<br/>Later in life many dental procedures may be needed for anyone and dentist will not want to perform them. Some dentists now refuse to treat a person on Fosamax. Hello, get on the back of the greedy pharmaceutical companies pushing drugs without more research to the safety of patents.<br/>Are there any symptoms to look for that we as users can be aware of before we hit the dentist chair? There is no guarantee taking any osteoporosis drug will prevent a fracture or break. So why load us up on more poison. I was taking it for 3 yrs and called my doctor and told her i am getting off of it. Who knows what more problems down the line it will cause. I would like to know how long it takes to get out of the body system. I have since put myself on Calcium Carbonate/D supplement.
Later in life many dental procedures may be needed for anyone and dentist will not want to perform them. Some dentists now refuse to treat a person on Fosamax. Hello, get on the back of the greedy pharmaceutical companies pushing drugs without more research to the safety of patents.
Are there any symptoms to look for that we as users can be aware of before we hit the dentist chair?

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/11/some-are-stopping-fosamax-and-other.html#comment-69079 Anonymous Sat, 25 Nov 2006 18:46:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/11/19336.html#comment-69079 I am a 60 year old active female who fractured my fibula and tibula on November 5, 2006. After surgery my surgeon informed me that while he was attempting to repair the fracture that the bone disintegrated like glass. He blamed it on the Fosamax that I have been taking for many years. Will it do me any good to stop taking Fosamax or is the irreparable damage already done to my bones for the rest of my life? I am a 60 year old active female who fractured my fibula and tibula on November 5, 2006. After surgery my surgeon informed me that while he was attempting to repair the fracture that the bone disintegrated like glass. He blamed it on the Fosamax that I have been taking for many years. Will it do me any good to stop taking Fosamax or is the irreparable damage already done to my bones for the rest of my life?

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/11/some-are-stopping-fosamax-and-other.html#comment-66124 Anonymous Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:34:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/11/19336.html#comment-66124 Read "The myth of Osteoperosis". This whole "disease" has been manufactured in the same labs as the dangerous drug you are all debating. I wouldn't take ONE of those pills. Our bones are designed to change over time. Our best defense is exercise, Calcium and magnesium and vitamin D. <br/>We all want a "wonder pill", but guess what? There isn't one!!! Wake up people. You are being scammed and big Pharm is getting rich off of the ignorance and pie in the sky wishes of women. <br/>Just reading how the bone gets "better' is sickening. Taking old bone matter and sticking back onto the existing bone?!?!?! Hello!! Would you drive around on tires that had worn off pieces of rubber stuck back on? Should we take menses(sp?) material and re-attach to our bodies...no! The process for bones is SUPPOSED to happen.<br/>How many of you actually KNOW someone who has the hump on their back or who has died of a bone injury? <br/>WAKE UP!!! You (and your wallets) and being scammed and Dr.s and Big Pharm is reaping the benefits...not anyone taking this dangerous drug! Read “The myth of Osteoperosis”. This whole “disease” has been manufactured in the same labs as the dangerous drug you are all debating. I wouldn’t take ONE of those pills. Our bones are designed to change over time. Our best defense is exercise, Calcium and magnesium and vitamin D.
We all want a “wonder pill”, but guess what? There isn’t one!!! Wake up people. You are being scammed and big Pharm is getting rich off of the ignorance and pie in the sky wishes of women.
Just reading how the bone gets “better’ is sickening. Taking old bone matter and sticking back onto the existing bone?!?!?! Hello!! Would you drive around on tires that had worn off pieces of rubber stuck back on? Should we take menses(sp?) material and re-attach to our bodies…no! The process for bones is SUPPOSED to happen.
How many of you actually KNOW someone who has the hump on their back or who has died of a bone injury?
WAKE UP!!! You (and your wallets) and being scammed and Dr.s and Big Pharm is reaping the benefits…not anyone taking this dangerous drug!

]]> By: Elizabethhttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/11/some-are-stopping-fosamax-and-other.html#comment-64692 Elizabeth Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:48:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/11/19336.html#comment-64692 What I'd like to know is whether these doctors who act so nonchalant about the risks of ONJ would prescribe it for their wives or daughters? Would they take it themselves? There is a long history of phosphorus causing jaw necrosis, phosphorus being part of what makes Fosamax, Boniva, and all the other bisphosphonates what they are. <br/><br/>In the 19th century, workers in match factories who were exposed to phosphorus got something called "phossy jaw" - just like women today are getting it. Rotting jaw. This is not a coincidence and it isn't just women taking intravenous Fosamax, either. How many women are walking around with ONJ and just don't know it because they haven't yet had a tooth extraction? <br/><br/>We'll be posting a timeline of bisphosphonates and phossy jaw, starting in the 19th century, over at our bone health blog, Got Bones? It's a very interesting history, indeed. <br/><br/>Visit us for the timeline and other news on this issue: <a HREF="http://gotbones.healthdiaries.com" REL="nofollow">Got Bones?</a> What I’d like to know is whether these doctors who act so nonchalant about the risks of ONJ would prescribe it for their wives or daughters? Would they take it themselves? There is a long history of phosphorus causing jaw necrosis, phosphorus being part of what makes Fosamax, Boniva, and all the other bisphosphonates what they are.

In the 19th century, workers in match factories who were exposed to phosphorus got something called “phossy jaw” – just like women today are getting it. Rotting jaw. This is not a coincidence and it isn’t just women taking intravenous Fosamax, either. How many women are walking around with ONJ and just don’t know it because they haven’t yet had a tooth extraction?

We’ll be posting a timeline of bisphosphonates and phossy jaw, starting in the 19th century, over at our bone health blog, Got Bones? It’s a very interesting history, indeed.

Visit us for the timeline and other news on this issue: Got Bones?

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/11/some-are-stopping-fosamax-and-other.html#comment-63203 Anonymous Fri, 19 May 2006 02:47:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/11/19336.html#comment-63203 The rate of turnover may be different but that doesn't preclude the strong possibility of the drug causing ON elsewhere, especially if the patient has been on it for a long time. The physiology of bone is essentally the same, therefore being open to similar destructive processes. Why exclude the possibility if no other risk factor is present, and especially when the ON is found in more than one site. The rate of turnover may be different but that doesn’t preclude the strong possibility of the drug causing ON elsewhere, especially if the patient has been on it for a long time. The physiology of bone is essentally the same, therefore being open to similar destructive processes. Why exclude the possibility if no other risk factor is present, and especially when the ON is found in more than one site.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/11/some-are-stopping-fosamax-and-other.html#comment-63199 Anonymous Thu, 18 May 2006 23:21:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/11/19336.html#comment-63199 The reason there is more Osteonecrosis of the jaw than anywhere else in the body is probably due to the fact that the rate of bone turnover in the jaw is every 2 years vs. every 10 years in the other bones of the body. All bones are not the same! The reason there is more Osteonecrosis of the jaw than anywhere else in the body is probably due to the fact that the rate of bone turnover in the jaw is every 2 years vs. every 10 years in the other bones of the body. All bones are not the same!

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/11/some-are-stopping-fosamax-and-other.html#comment-63159 Anonymous Thu, 18 May 2006 04:07:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/11/19336.html#comment-63159 Has anyone given any thought to the fact that if in fact Osteonecrosisof the jaw can be caused by this family of drugs, why not ON in other bones. The physiology of bone is the same regardless of location. Many older patients have ON of the hip and require replacement joint surgery. Many of these same patients have been on these drugs for many years and don't fit into any high risk group. We have just bcome complacent and accept this malady as a side effect of old age. Why? Has anyone given any thought to the fact that if in fact Osteonecrosisof the jaw can be caused by this family of drugs, why not ON in other bones. The physiology of bone is the same regardless of location. Many older patients have ON of the hip and require replacement joint surgery. Many of these same patients have been on these drugs for many years and don’t fit into any high risk group. We have just bcome complacent and accept this malady as a side effect of old age. Why?

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