Wednesday, May 25, 20059
The physical exam is dead - as evidenced by the growth of telemedicine services
"Robert Berenson, a senior fellow with the Urban Institute and a medical doctor, says much of medicine can be done simply by getting a verbal description of the patient's condition and health history. While it's best to know the patient beforehand, doctors quite often provide treatment for patients they've never met.
'If you're covering your partner's patient, you've never met them and you don't have access to their chart because we don't have electronic medical records,' Berenson says. 'There's nothing radical about people diagnosing over the phone. What makes this interesting is people taking a chance on a doctor they don't know.'"
A huge liability risk that these docs are taking.
"Robert Berenson, a senior fellow with the Urban Institute and a medical doctor, says much of medicine can be done simply by getting a verbal description of the patient's condition and health history. While it's best to know the patient beforehand, doctors quite often provide treatment for patients they've never met.
'If you're covering your partner's patient, you've never met them and you don't have access to their chart because we don't have electronic medical records,' Berenson says. 'There's nothing radical about people diagnosing over the phone. What makes this interesting is people taking a chance on a doctor they don't know.'"
A huge liability risk that these docs are taking.



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Anonymous
The clinical method is the crown jewel of medicine. It will only be lost if we let it be.
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Anonymous
B.S. You medical luddite.
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Anonymous
What's stopping you?
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Anonymous
Some people are so STUPID you can do little else but stand back and gape in awe at the incredible sight.
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Anonymous
Let me just say, the above comment is fantastic. People often have no idea what goes into medical decision making.
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Anonymous
Just a drive-by troll. Not to worry.
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Anonymous
"Let me just say, the above comment is fantastic. People often have no idea what goes into medical decision making."
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Anonymous
"He appears to know about as much as most physicians know about how insurance rates are set and how the legal system works."
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Anonymous
But of course you do. You're a physician. You're not to be questioned.
Post a Comment »10:18 AM
Computers outperform physicians on prescription, are better than radiologists in certain tumor detection--and soon they will overtake doctors in a variety of other types of diagnosis.
Only doctor's rank protectionism stands in the way of this improvement--and the views of the previous poster.
I for one would be delighted to have all my healthcare handled by computer. Much less error and even less pomposity.
10:33 AM
10:48 AM
Computers outperform physicians on prescription, are better than radiologists in certain tumor detection--and soon they will overtake doctors in a variety of other types of diagnosis.
The rank ignorance in this is just so bad it leaves you speechless. I'm not even going to bother shredding it. So I'll just agree. Do me a favor though, will you?
Next time you march into a hospital, walk over to your beloved desktop PC, and ask it to take a history, (including picking up psychosocial aspects), do a beautiful examination of your hands, eyes, ears, tongue, mouth, lymph nodes, cranial nerves (all 12 of them), neck, carotids, JVP, windpipe, rib cage, lungs (all lobes - including auscultation, egophony, percussion, tactile fremitus etc), heart (including auscultation of all heart sounds, heart murmurs, gallops, clicks, palpation of apical impulse, thrills), breasts, abdomen, and the rest of the vascular system, musculoskeletal system, neurological system. Then have it get you up and analyze your gait (that should be very cool to watch), and also do cerebellar tests.
Then ask it what it thinks your diagnosis is, what your differential diagnosis is, and the precise ancillary investigations you need to have done to rule out (or in) the items. (You should also at this point nudge him in the keyboards and make sure he knows all the evidence for everything he's going to do - he cannot order less than he needs, but also not more than he needs, because then he exposes the patient to harm from the test. If he squeals (or reboots), tell him its ok, he can practice high quality medicine and not defensive medicine because even bloodthristy lawyers can't sue computers.)
Then when your rare condition is found - and it will be, because your desktop PC can do everything we talked about - tell it to perform the 7 hour surgery, and then hand you over to the ICU desktops (all Macs) who can manage you medically. And even guard against complications.
When you're all done, let me know the model and make of all those PCs.
We'd all just dying to know.
12:41 PM
3:32 PM
11:09 PM
He appears to know about as much as most physicians know about how insurance rates are set and how the legal system works.
9:32 AM
uuhh, this thread is about the clinical exam. It has nothing to do with insurance rates and the legal system. Although I certainly know more about those than most med mal lawyers know about the practice of medicine.
5:23 PM
7:55 AM