<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Do patients want doctors who are on time, but rush appointments?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/05/patients-doctors-time-rush-appointments.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/05/patients-doctors-time-rush-appointments.html</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:27:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/05/patients-doctors-time-rush-appointments.html#comment-75123</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/05/spectrum-of-waiting.html#comment-75123</guid> <description>My hair dresser knows how to schedule appointments base on the needs of there clients, a cut 15 minutes, perm, color and cut and hour and a half.  Putting all your patients in a 15 minute window does not seem practical. Why not notify appointments over a certain time that there running late, my time is also worth something.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hair dresser knows how to schedule appointments base on the needs of there clients, a cut 15 minutes, perm, color and cut and hour and a half.  Putting all your patients in a 15 minute window does not seem practical. Why not notify appointments over a certain time that there running late, my time is also worth something.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/05/patients-doctors-time-rush-appointments.html#comment-70821</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/05/spectrum-of-waiting.html#comment-70821</guid> <description>I waited 3 hours past my appointment with no explanation at a doctors office for a Thyroid check. When I returned for a follow up I was told the wait would be at least an hour and a half. I rescheduled at that point and left. My family Doctor was reluctant to send me to this Doctor because he has a reputation of always running behind. I am in the process of trying to write or design a billing schedule to send to this doctors office for my lost time. I plan to  charge $60 per hour for my time. Since I am retired that is the least I will charge for my free time.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I waited 3 hours past my appointment with no explanation at a doctors office for a Thyroid check. When I returned for a follow up I was told the wait would be at least an hour and a half. I rescheduled at that point and left. My family Doctor was reluctant to send me to this Doctor because he has a reputation of always running behind. I am in the process of trying to write or design a billing schedule to send to this doctors office for my lost time. I plan to  charge $60 per hour for my time. Since I am retired that is the least I will charge for my free time.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dex</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/05/patients-doctors-time-rush-appointments.html#comment-66178</link> <dc:creator>Dex</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/05/spectrum-of-waiting.html#comment-66178</guid> <description>I rotated with a Family Practice doctor, an osteopath I might add, who had a great system.  No appointments.  For followup, he would say, &quot;Come back in two weeks.&quot;  The new patient would then ask the secretary for anappointment.  She would say, &quot;Just come.  No appointments.  First come, first served.&quot;  They have a list that you sign when you come in, and you knew exactly your place in line.  Too long a wait?  Come back in a couple of hours.  They would lock the door at closing time, and the doctor would see anyone left. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is a great system, and it works well.  I have come to think that doctors have appointments in order to maintain an illusion of control, as mentioned above.  If nobody came, so what?  Slow day, that&#039;s all.  The other doctors in the practice used appointments, and saw half as many patients, and people would say when my doctor was covering their patients, &quot;wow, that was much nicer than with that other guy.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rotated with a Family Practice doctor, an osteopath I might add, who had a great system.  No appointments.  For followup, he would say, &#8220;Come back in two weeks.&#8221;  The new patient would then ask the secretary for anappointment.  She would say, &#8220;Just come.  No appointments.  First come, first served.&#8221;  They have a list that you sign when you come in, and you knew exactly your place in line.  Too long a wait?  Come back in a couple of hours.  They would lock the door at closing time, and the doctor would see anyone left.</p><p>It is a great system, and it works well.  I have come to think that doctors have appointments in order to maintain an illusion of control, as mentioned above.  If nobody came, so what?  Slow day, that&#8217;s all.  The other doctors in the practice used appointments, and saw half as many patients, and people would say when my doctor was covering their patients, &#8220;wow, that was much nicer than with that other guy.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SteveF</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/05/patients-doctors-time-rush-appointments.html#comment-66168</link> <dc:creator>SteveF</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/05/spectrum-of-waiting.html#comment-66168</guid> <description>I can&#039;t believe people get upset because they have to wait at the doctor&#039;s office.  I love my doctor, he never rushes me, always listens. There have been a few times when I had to wait a little longer, but what&#039;s the big deal?  He&#039;s helping other patients, not playing a video game or something. The receptionist keeps us informed.  Besides the two docs,  an RN and a Physican&#039;s Assistant work there.  We can see them for minor things.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe people get upset because they have to wait at the doctor&#8217;s office.  I love my doctor, he never rushes me, always listens. There have been a few times when I had to wait a little longer, but what&#8217;s the big deal?  He&#8217;s helping other patients, not playing a video game or something. The receptionist keeps us informed.  Besides the two docs,  an RN and a Physican&#8217;s Assistant work there.  We can see them for minor things.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/05/patients-doctors-time-rush-appointments.html#comment-53184</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/05/spectrum-of-waiting.html#comment-53184</guid> <description>&gt;&gt;There are other solutions. Maybe find ways to train more doctors.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Being done. The MD programs are growing, though a little. The osteopathic side, they opened two or three schools in the 1990&#039;s. By absolute numbers and percentage growth, the osteopathic schools grew a lot more, and their historical trend was primary care, I assume that is still the case as far as I know.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&gt;&gt;Or allow a certain level of problem to be treated by a non-physician. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also being done. A lot. It varies state-by-state, though. Nurse practitioners have independent licensure in many states. They can go out and set up shop in my area. And they do. There are at least three independent nurse practitioner clinics in my county. That &quot;certain level of problem&quot; that a nurse practitioner can handle in my state, is just about anything.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>There are other solutions. Maybe find ways to train more doctors.</p><p>Being done. The MD programs are growing, though a little. The osteopathic side, they opened two or three schools in the 1990&#8242;s. By absolute numbers and percentage growth, the osteopathic schools grew a lot more, and their historical trend was primary care, I assume that is still the case as far as I know.</p><p>>>Or allow a certain level of problem to be treated by a non-physician.</p><p>Also being done. A lot. It varies state-by-state, though. Nurse practitioners have independent licensure in many states. They can go out and set up shop in my area. And they do. There are at least three independent nurse practitioner clinics in my county. That &#8220;certain level of problem&#8221; that a nurse practitioner can handle in my state, is just about anything.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JK</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/05/patients-doctors-time-rush-appointments.html#comment-53178</link> <dc:creator>JK</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 01:19:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/05/spectrum-of-waiting.html#comment-53178</guid> <description>I&#039;ve dealt a with a lot of doctors (a few on time, most not) and I tend to be real patient &lt;b&gt;if&lt;/b&gt; the doctor takes the time to take care of my problems. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My PCP is usually behind schedule, but she doesn&#039;t rush me, answers my questions completely, explains things with out being prompted, and seems to be actually in treating me. Since she doesn&#039;t rush me, I can&#039;t really complain that she didn&#039;t rush the guy before me. She&#039;s a good doctor, so I cut her a lot of slack on the scheduling issues. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On the other hand, I used to go to an idiot of a urologist who was a little better about seeing me on time, but  he always seemed to get out a fast as possible, never gave more than the shortest possible possible answers to the most direct questions, and never seemed to listen. I was less inclinded to feel understanding and eventually &quot;fired&quot; him about a year later than I should have. (A long story, but looking back there were so many things screaming &quot;change doctors&quot; )&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Not rushing patients and saying &quot;Sorry that we&#039;re are running behind because...&quot; can make up for a lot of lateness.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That being said it would be nice if the receptionest could say something like &quot;It&#039;s been a busy morning and we are running an hour behind&quot; or something to that effect.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for paying more to get longer appointments, I would be glad to, but it can&#039;t happen in todays system. Most people have no choice in what insurance plan they use. You use what your employer picks and most insurance plans set the price period. That&#039;s just the way it is. In a sane world the doctors would set the price and the insurace companies would decide whether or not to cover that doctor, but in the real world it&#039;s the opposite.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Finally, to all of the other patients out there : please &lt;b&gt;be on time&lt;/b&gt; or even a little early. Remember, when you are late and they fit you in anyway, you are not just wasting the doctor&#039;s time, you are wasting the time of every patient after you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve dealt a with a lot of doctors (a few on time, most not) and I tend to be real patient <b>if</b> the doctor takes the time to take care of my problems.</p><p>My PCP is usually behind schedule, but she doesn&#8217;t rush me, answers my questions completely, explains things with out being prompted, and seems to be actually in treating me. Since she doesn&#8217;t rush me, I can&#8217;t really complain that she didn&#8217;t rush the guy before me. She&#8217;s a good doctor, so I cut her a lot of slack on the scheduling issues.</p><p>On the other hand, I used to go to an idiot of a urologist who was a little better about seeing me on time, but  he always seemed to get out a fast as possible, never gave more than the shortest possible possible answers to the most direct questions, and never seemed to listen. I was less inclinded to feel understanding and eventually &#8220;fired&#8221; him about a year later than I should have. (A long story, but looking back there were so many things screaming &#8220;change doctors&#8221; )</p><p>Not rushing patients and saying &#8220;Sorry that we&#8217;re are running behind because&#8230;&#8221; can make up for a lot of lateness.</p><p>That being said it would be nice if the receptionest could say something like &#8220;It&#8217;s been a busy morning and we are running an hour behind&#8221; or something to that effect.</p><p>As for paying more to get longer appointments, I would be glad to, but it can&#8217;t happen in todays system. Most people have no choice in what insurance plan they use. You use what your employer picks and most insurance plans set the price period. That&#8217;s just the way it is. In a sane world the doctors would set the price and the insurace companies would decide whether or not to cover that doctor, but in the real world it&#8217;s the opposite.</p><p>Finally, to all of the other patients out there : please <b>be on time</b> or even a little early. Remember, when you are late and they fit you in anyway, you are not just wasting the doctor&#8217;s time, you are wasting the time of every patient after you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Flex</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/05/patients-doctors-time-rush-appointments.html#comment-53174</link> <dc:creator>Flex</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/05/spectrum-of-waiting.html#comment-53174</guid> <description>Strange,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;   I have a little problem accepting that a patient can determine the seriousness of their medical problem by the quantity of money they have.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;   The idea presented above that patients who want their primary care physician to schedule their appointments based on how much a patient is willing to pay just sounds like a bad idea.  &quot;I&#039;m sorry Mr. Jones, I have to reschedule your appointment again.  Mr. Smith wants the doctor to look at a wart, and is willing to pay more than you possibly can afford.&quot;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;   I do like the idea of a computer monitor showing the queue.  I might suggest a little privacy be observed.  Maybe by giving people numbers and showing the numbers on the monitor.  I wouldn&#039;t necessarily want to display my name and reason for visit to an entire waiting room.  &quot;Flex - Awaiting Rectal Exam in Room 3.&quot;  Not so good.&lt;br/&gt;  &lt;br/&gt;  There are other solutions.  Maybe find ways to train more doctors.  Or allow a certain level of problem to be treated by a non-physician.  If I know that I need a salve for a rash, I don&#039;t necessarily need to see my primary care physician.  There may be ethical concerns with this type of solution, but they may be addressable.  &lt;br/&gt;   &lt;br/&gt; Personally I am a rather calm person, and usually schedule a good deal of extra time when I go to my primary care physician&#039;s office.  I realize that there is a wide variety of conditions that a physician may see in a day.  Some are easy to diagnose and treat, others may be very difficult.  What would be very helpful, and I&#039;m just thinking out loud here, is a way for a physician to get some idea of the patient&#039;s condition before an appointment is scheduled.  Reducing the surprises for the physician may go a long way toward allowing them to create a manageable schedule. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Can you tell it&#039;s the end of a workday and I&#039;m ready to go home?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cheers,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-Flex</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange,</p><p> I have a little problem accepting that a patient can determine the seriousness of their medical problem by the quantity of money they have.</p><p> The idea presented above that patients who want their primary care physician to schedule their appointments based on how much a patient is willing to pay just sounds like a bad idea.  &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry Mr. Jones, I have to reschedule your appointment again.  Mr. Smith wants the doctor to look at a wart, and is willing to pay more than you possibly can afford.&#8221;</p><p> I do like the idea of a computer monitor showing the queue.  I might suggest a little privacy be observed.  Maybe by giving people numbers and showing the numbers on the monitor.  I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily want to display my name and reason for visit to an entire waiting room.  &#8220;Flex &#8211; Awaiting Rectal Exam in Room 3.&#8221;  Not so good.</p><p> There are other solutions.  Maybe find ways to train more doctors.  Or allow a certain level of problem to be treated by a non-physician.  If I know that I need a salve for a rash, I don&#8217;t necessarily need to see my primary care physician.  There may be ethical concerns with this type of solution, but they may be addressable.</p><p> Personally I am a rather calm person, and usually schedule a good deal of extra time when I go to my primary care physician&#8217;s office.  I realize that there is a wide variety of conditions that a physician may see in a day.  Some are easy to diagnose and treat, others may be very difficult.  What would be very helpful, and I&#8217;m just thinking out loud here, is a way for a physician to get some idea of the patient&#8217;s condition before an appointment is scheduled.  Reducing the surprises for the physician may go a long way toward allowing them to create a manageable schedule.</p><p>Can you tell it&#8217;s the end of a workday and I&#8217;m ready to go home?</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>-Flex</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/05/patients-doctors-time-rush-appointments.html#comment-53168</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 15:02:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/05/spectrum-of-waiting.html#comment-53168</guid> <description>My doctor ALWAYS apologizes to me when he knows I have been waiting a long time for him.  Therefore, he will continue to be my doctor of choice.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My doctor ALWAYS apologizes to me when he knows I have been waiting a long time for him.  Therefore, he will continue to be my doctor of choice.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/05/patients-doctors-time-rush-appointments.html#comment-53153</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/05/spectrum-of-waiting.html#comment-53153</guid> <description>...&quot;When I have an appointment in your office a 9:45, I don&#039;t care if you only spend 5 minutes with me if we can cover what needs to be covered&quot;...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Right.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And if we can&#039;t cover &quot;what needs to be covered&quot; in that time?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Then what?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Out the door with you in mid-sentence and a followup next week to continue?  Right in the middle of your &quot;By the way, I&#039;ve been having this odd chest pain lately ...&quot;?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Or have the next patient wait a bit till &quot;what needs to be covered&quot; is understood and dealt with?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Once again, you can&#039;t have it both</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;When I have an appointment in your office a 9:45, I don&#8217;t care if you only spend 5 minutes with me if we can cover what needs to be covered&#8221;&#8230;</p><p>Right.</p><p>And if we can&#8217;t cover &#8220;what needs to be covered&#8221; in that time?</p><p>Then what?</p><p>Out the door with you in mid-sentence and a followup next week to continue?  Right in the middle of your &#8220;By the way, I&#8217;ve been having this odd chest pain lately &#8230;&#8221;?</p><p>Or have the next patient wait a bit till &#8220;what needs to be covered&#8221; is understood and dealt with?</p><p>Once again, you can&#8217;t have it both</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2005/05/patients-doctors-time-rush-appointments.html#comment-53137</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2005 03:22:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://clients.emmense.com/kevinmd/2005/05/spectrum-of-waiting.html#comment-53137</guid> <description>That is the real problem, indeed. The relationship is distorted because of insurance companies.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the real problem, indeed. The relationship is distorted because of insurance companies.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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